Friday, April 30, 2004

The Seattle Times: Local News: Woman loses her job over coffins photo

Doesn’t this sound like another case of the government censoring news designed for the people?  Doesn’t this sound like tactics used by fascist nations to control their “subjects”?
Doesn’t this sound like an administration that is more concerned with reelection protection than national unity and understanding?

Anyway, read the old news yourself.

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By Hal Bernton
Seattle Times staff reporter

A military contractor has fired Tami Silicio, a Kuwait-based cargo worker whose photograph of flag-draped coffins of fallen U.S. soldiers was published in Sunday’s edition of The Seattle Times.

Silicio was let go yesterday for violating U.S. government and company regulations, said William Silva, president of Maytag Aircraft, the contractor that employed Silicio at Kuwait International Airport.

“I feel like I was hit in the chest with a steel bar and got my wind knocked out. I have to admit I liked my job, and I liked what I did,” Silicio said.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2001909527_coffin22m.html

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Tuesday, April 27, 2004

Concussion Mobile

I might label the pictures, but I’m sure you can make out the details.
1996 Chevy Impala

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Monday, April 26, 2004

here it is - the mighty six-foe

thi is after i changed some goodies, intake, carb, electric fans, therm and water neck.  ill be baggin it, puutin on some wicked grafix, and doin a custom interior.  .image

the work I’ll be doing to it in the next few weeks is: yankin the motor doin a full dress in chrome, bigger “badder” cam shaft, baggin the entire suspension, relocating the in-cab gastank to the rear of the trunk and running an elecric pump, custom paint ( im thinking tangelo - byhouse of color look at the travis more boat ][url=http://www.houseofkolor.com/hok/gallery/PPA/PP2002.jsp]http://www.houseofkolor.com/hok/gallery/PPA/PP2002.jsp)[/url][/url] and some sick custom work to the dash and a built center console with amps-subs and a refridgorator - Maybe....

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Come and listen

This was funny to me… I received it in email from a co worker.

Subject:† Whoever put this together is a good poet!†
Sing along,† folks—to the tune of Beverly Hillbillies:†
Come and listen to my story ‘bout a boy named Bush.† His IQ was zero and his head was up his tush.† He drank like a fish while he drove a car about.† But† that didn’t matter ‘cuz his daddy bailed him out. DUI,† that is.† Criminal record.† Cover-up.† Well, the first thing you know little Georgie goes to Yale.† He can’t spell his name but† they never let him fail.† He spends all his time hangin’† out with student folk.† And that’s when he learns how to† snort a line of coke.† Blow, that is.† White† gold.† Nose candy.† The next thing you know there’s a war in Vietnam.† Kin† folks say, “George, stay at home with Mom."† Let the† common people get maimed and
scarred.† We’ll buy you up a† spot in the Texas National Guard.† Cush, that is. Country clubs.† Nose candy.† Twenty years later George gets a little bored.† He trades in the booze, says that Jesus is his Lord.† He said, “Now the White House is the place I wanna be."† So he called his daddy’s friends and they called the GOP.† Gun owners, that is.† Falwell.† Jesse Helms.† Come November 7,† the election ran late.† Kin folks said “Jeb, give the boy† your state!"† “Don’t let those colored folks get anywhere† near polls."† So they put up barricades so they couldn’t† punch their holes.† Chads, that is.† Duval† County.† Miami-Dade. Before the votes were counted all the five Supremes stepped in.† Told all the voters “Hey, we want our George to win."† “Stop counting votes!” was their solemn invocation.† And that’s how little Georgie finally got his coronation. Rigged, that is.† Illegitimate.† No moral authority.† Y’all come vote now.† Ya
hear?

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I don’t have photo’s as of yet

I have been working on replacing the intake mainifold, gaskets, carb, gaskets, and hand machining all of the comonents t fit.  bsicaly it’s been a pain-in-the-ass!!! so I’ll post pix in a bit and of the new fillies!  i am so swamped these day’s it seems time to complete bodily functions is a day well earned!  I know thats nasty but true some days?!!

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Sunday, April 25, 2004

Heya Grandmaaaaa!

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Saturday, April 24, 2004

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Friday, April 23, 2004

My cousin

April 12, 2004
Stanford’s Montgomery Offers Lawrence Hill
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Anthony Ray
ArizonaPreps.com Recruiting Analyst

GoStanford.com

Stanford Head Coach Mike Montgomery visited the state of Arizona Thursday to offer Lawrence Hill
Deer Valley High School’s 6’8” junior Lawrence Hill is among the nation’s top rated prospects by numerous top rated scouting services. One school who has taken notice of Hill’s top play last summer as well as his potential for the future is the University of Stanford. While Hill is currently rated #46 overall among the nation’s 2005 prospects by Clark Francis of Hoop Scoop, only UCLA has offered an official scholarship to Hill thus far. While North Carolina State, Louisville, Illinois, and Arizona State have all also shown a lot of interest in Hill thus far, only one school has offered up until last Thursday when Stanford University’s Head Coach Mike Montgomery visited Deer Valley High School to make an official offer to the national 2005 target Lawrence Hill.

According to Hill’s father Larry, he and his family were very impressed with the Stanford Head Coach and his plans for their son’s future. They advised Arizona Preps that while Stanford seems like a perfect fit for their son, they are also considering taking visits to other schools as well to make sure that they pick the right school.

While Montgomery was very impressive, so was University of Louisville Head Coach Rick Pitino, who spoke with Lawrence and his parents over the phone last week. Larry Hill advised us that Lawrence also had a very good conversation with Pitino, and that they are considering numerous schools at this point, and are not ruling out anyone since it is still too early to make any decisions.

“Many schools think that Lawrence is just going to go to Stanford, but we are not ruling out anyone right now,” Larry Hill told Arizona Preps.

Hill will travel this weekend to Las Vegas with the Arizona Magic travelling team for the Las Vegas Spring Showcase which will be held April 16-18.

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Down Low Brothers

Did anyone see the Oprah show on the DL Brothers? 

I have no problem with anyone’s lifestyle or sexual orientation.  But some things are just wrong.  We wonder why African Americans are being killed off by AIDS well here is the reason. The transcript is here live in living color.

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Oprah Show Transcript
Men Living on the D.L.

Friday, April 16, 2004

Oprah:
Iím an African-American woman (audience laughs) so when I, uh, oh didnít you know that?  (Audience laughs more) When I told the producers I wanted to say that, they go like, ìReaaallly now?î But, Iím an African-American woman so when I picked up the paper the other day, and saw this headline, it really got my attention.  The headline says, ìAIDS is the leading cause of death for African-Americans between the age of 25 and 44.î That is startling!  All my alarms went off.  Not only are more Black people getting AIDS in record numbersÖmore women, listen to me now, more women, more college students and people over 50 are at greater risk than ever before.  Today, youíre gonna hear many reasons why AIDS is on the rise again.  Hereís a shocker!  Itís one of the big reasons why so many women are getting AIDS.  Their husbands and their boyfriends are having secret sex with other men. (Audience moans) Okay, Iíll let that sink in for a minute. (Audience laughs) Okay, so this lifestyle even has a name.  Itís called ìLiving on the Down Lowî.  Okay, living on the down low.  Listen to these three men who speak out about their double lives on the down low.  Now, two of them asked us to remain anonymous.

Man # 1
Having a main girl, two other girls on the side and three guys makes for a lot of sex in the course of a month.  I have non-committed sex with men.  In no way, shape, or form do I consider myself gay.  I just donít ñ I refuse to accept that at all.  I wonít even use the term ëbi-sexualí.  Being in a relationship with a womanÖthere is a certain warmness; a certain comfort that you just canít get with another dude.  The women I sleep with have not always known that I also sleep with men.  In the past, I havenít told them because itís a lot easier to just not to tell.

Man # 2
Iím shuffling three guys right now, actually.  One is married, the other two gentleman, I am with basically for sex.  What we do is very promiscuousÖvery, very, very promiscuous.  Sometimes I practice safe sex, sometimes I do not.  The married guy, we use condoms all the time.  He insists on it.  The other two guys, we donít use condoms.  Usually, if I am with a woman, we donít practice safe sex.

Man # 1
For quite a while, I had very bad behavior and had unprotected sex with men, with women.

Man # 2
As far as practicing safe sexÖI will say 96% of the time.  The other 4% it is that heat of the moment.

Man # 1
My first condom was when I was 40 years old.  Itís gotten o a point now where anybody can be D.L. and you wouldnít know it.  Brothers that have been married 20 years, theyíve been on the D.L. for 25 years.

Man # 2
Iím three decades into the game.  You donít just stop and say, ëOkay, Iím not gonna do this anymore.  Okay, you have emotions, you have feelings, you have hormones and all of these things are playing a part in what I want.  And what I want is men and women.

Oprah:
Is that not a shocker!?  Well, J.L. King was a happily married father of two.  But, he was keeping a dark secretÖliving on the down low.

J.L. King:
I married my high school sweetheart.  I knew then that she was going to be the mother of my children. I loved this woman with all my heart and soul.  My wife and I, we were the perfect couple.  We were active in our church; we were on the fast-track to success, we had bought this beautiful home, we had two cars, we had the two dogs and our kids were in private schools but this desire that I had kept creeping up on me.  Deep down inside, I had a desire to be with menÖand the desire was so strong, that it just overrode everything I knew.  It created this whole secret life and made me make up stories and try to cover up my tracksÖa life that destroyed my family.  The day that I got caught was a sad, sad day.  I remember getting to this house.  I can remember laying across the bed and really thinking to myself that this was the life!  I had the best of both worlds.

When I think what happened that day was she followed me.  She could have easily walked in the house, walked up the stairs and from that point of reference, saw everything.  I didnít see her because I was so caught up with n what I was doing.  And I know when I got home, something wasnít right.  I heard my wife crying in the background; I knew that I had got caught.  Thereís no way that you can look at a man and point out, or see that he is living a double life.  There are men that live this life that work on the fire department.  Iíve met men who are active in this lifestyle that stand in the pulpit every Sunday.  There are men who live this life who are in all aspects of corporate America.  To be on the down low means to keep it hush-hush; to be unreadable, to be able to cover your tracks.  Women who are married, women who are comfortable, women who donít believe that this could happen to themÖneed to take another look at whatís going on in their house.

Oprah:
We welcome J.L. King to the show because you are one of the few people who has chosen to speak out about this even though the New York Times, I think, back in August is the first time I even heard of it.  Thereís this huge cover story about it.  And I remember my girlfriend, Gayle, she read it and she goes, ìOh, my God, I read this article, and Iím scared!î

J.L. King
She should be.

Oprah
And, yeah, she should be becauseÖsigh.

J.L. King
Gayle is the perfect example of a young lady who is looking for that perfect man.  Iíve seen your show so many times when youíre trying to hook her up.

Oprah:
Uh-huh (audience laughs)

J.L. King
You know, some of the things that youíd talk aboutÖlike he had to have a certain height, have a certain job a certain look, a certain image.  And so as a D.L. brother, I look at that going like, ëCool, cool!í Gayle is one of those sisters who, if I met her in the right situation, the right place, then I might have an opportunity to date her.  If you (Oprah) and I were friends, and you knew nothing about my lifeÖyou might say, ìGayle, I met J.L. King and he is cute, and fine, and he really got it going on and Iímma hook you up.

Oprah
He got a job

J.L. King
He got a job.  He loves his kids, he loves his mother, he goes to church every Sunday.  He was married, so Iímma hook you guys up.  And that happens all across the country all the time.  See, to live this double life takes a lot of work.

Oprah
Okay, how long were you living the double life?

J.L. King
I can remember having an attraction, or the desire, for the same sex when I was probably ten years old.  But because I grew up in a household where my father insisted that his sons would be ìgood menî.  You will get married, you will go to school, you will serve your country, you will take care of your wife; you will be the perfect gentleman.  And because of that pressure constantlyÖ

Oprah
You got married and had two kidsÖ

J.L. King
I got married and had two kids.  I married my high school sweetheart and we had the perfect life.

Oprah
Okay, you asked the questioning in the book, ìSo, was my marriage a lie?î And thatís the question for every woman that discovers thisÖwas the marriage a lie?

J.L. King
The marriage wasnít a lie because I LOVED my wife.  I loved her; she was my best friend.  We were running partners.  What was a lie about the marriage was my desire to have sex with other men.  That was just something I couldnít reveal to her because I was scared, I could notÖ

Oprah
I donít think that that would have worked

J.L. King
Oh, no, it would not have.

Oprah
ëCause when people say, ìíTil death do us partí and accept the vows, it doesnít mean, ìand also the down low partî.  Okay, so tell me this, do you then not consider yourself gay?

J.L. King
No, I donít.

Oprah
You donít?

J.L. King
No, I donít ..

Oprah
Explain that to me because I canít figure that out.

J.L. King
Why do I have to label myself?  Why do I have to put a label on myself to make you comfortable?

Oprah
I donít want to be comfortable; I just want to know what it is.  Okay?  Okay, for example, I look at you, I see a Black man.  Thatís not a labelÖthat just is what you are.

J.L. King
The act is homosexuality.  The act of the sex is homosexuality.  But I donít want to be caught up in the whole gay cultureÖbecause people look at gay people as they are less than a man.  That you are this sissy, this faggotÖthis less thanÖ

Oprah
Do they still do that?

J.L. King
Yes, they still do that.

Oprah
We got ìQueer Eye for the Straight GuyîÖ

J.L. King
ìYeah, you got White gay.  You see the media has let the White gay people feel comfortable in their skin.  But itís still taboo to be Black and homosexual and I refuse to be labeled and classified as this character that people will look at me as something different.  I am a man.  I donít want to be labeled.

Oprah
See I look at gay guys as being men.  I think gay men are men (audience claps).

J.L. King
Okay, yeah, you do.  In the Black community, if you come out and say, ìIím gay and proud,î automatically, people look at you differently; they treat you differently.  All of a sudden, I become, ìOh, I want you to meet my GAY friend, J.L.,î ìI want you to meet my GAY brother, J.L.,î ìI want you to meet my GAY father, J.L.î

Oprah
Okay, so that is the reason why itís called ìthe down lowî?

J.L. King
ëDown lowí means I donít want anybody to know.  I wanna do what I do, I want it to be my business and itís none of your business what I do.  Itís wrongÖ

Oprah
Okay, so down low also means DENIAL (audience claps and laughs)

J.L. King
DenialÖyes, yes, yesÖ

Oprah
I know, I picked up your book and I couldnít put the thing down last night.  I mean really, really revealing and courageous of you.  What has happened to you because youíve chosen to speak out?  You say that when you went to your other D.L. brothersÖyour D.L. Brothers, they tried to convince you not to come out with it.

J.L. King
Not to come outÖdonít talk about it.  Not only the D.L. community, but my people.  There are a lot of Black folk who still donít want me to talk about this.  They donít want to hear it.  They look at it as if Iím airing our dirty laundry; that Iím doing a harm to African-American men.  That Black men already have aÖ

Oprah
I think youíre doing a great service to African-American women..

J.L. King
I know thatÖand thatís why I did it.  Thatís why I did it! (audience applauds) I get the death threats.

Oprah
For telling the truth?

J.L. King
For telling the truth.  I get emails from people saying, ëweíll show up to your family or your bookstore,í ëyou better bring security,í but I donít care because when I look at my daughter, who I love, and I know her chances of finding a brother who will lie to her or infect her or hurt her emotionally drives me to do what I do.

Oprah
Okay.  Weíre going to talk more to J.L. about the secret life he was leading and so many other men are leadingÖsleeping with men while theyíre married.  And later, weíll hear from the other side.  Women who were deceived and infected with HIV now speak out.  Weíll be back

Commercial Break

Man # 1
After I was diagnosed with HIV, my behaviors didnít change.  My behaviors got worse.  I hung out in bars and picked up anonymous people.  I had unprotected sex with guys, with women.  Unfortunately, I would say I most likely have infected other people.  I didnít protect myself or anything else.

Man # 2
I did have two HIV scares.  There were two guys that I had messed around with and they would ask, ìWell, how is your health?î And I would say, ìOh, my health is fine, why?î ìWell the reason why is because there is something I need to tell you, um, Iím HIV positive.î I had unprotected sex with both of those guys.  You know, Iím fortunate Iím not positive.  Because that was something my female partners and I, we never brought that up was testing.  We never talked about HIV, never talked about Herpes, none of that.

Oprah
Well, in a recent New York Times magazine, they exposed, uh - I thought it was new, J.L. says itís not ñ disturbing sexual practice called ìliving on the down lowî.  And we just heard J.L. Kingís story.  Heís written a fascinating book, very candid, about his own double life and itís out next month.  Itís called ìOn the Down Low: A Journey into the Lives of Straight Black men who Sleep with Menî So, you sayÖweíre not going to go into that whole issue of ìstraightî anymore, ëcause weíre just gonna leave that aloneÖyou say that, ìI shudder to think of how many times Iíve put my life and the lives of women at risk.  I never paid attention to messages about practicing safer sex.  It didnít relate to me.î

J.L. King
It didnít.  Because for the most part, social marketing messages were toward the gay community.  Even in 2004, Oprah, a lot of folks still think that AIDS and HIV is still a white, gay male disease.

Oprah
Yeah, in this country

J.L. King
Yes, in this country.  Even when I see billboards that say, ìpractice safer sex, use condoms, get tested,î that message does not speak to me.

Oprah
Okay, now you say also in here that you [a woman] cannot compete with him.  You say that, if a woman discovers that her husband is sleeping with another man, there is nothing she can do.

J.L. King
Nothing she can do

Oprah
Nothing

J.L. King
Sometimes women will try.  They email me and say, ìWell, if I let him have sex with me inÖnon-traditional ways, will that keep him home with me?î See, women love so hard.  And if you fall in love with your childhood sweetheart, you do not want to end that marriage, so you look at alternative ways to gratify him.

Oprah
You wonder, ìWhat can I do?î

J.L. King
Yeah, you say, ìWhat can I do?î

Oprah
You think itís about you [the woman].

J.L. King
You see, what we doÖmen know that women who are approaching a certain age who donít have a boyfriend or a man, they get desperate, so they are always looking for that perfect gentleman.  So D.L. men donít

Oprah
Oh, you just called it all out right there, huh?

J.L. King
Well, yeah

[Audience laughs]

J.L. King
We donít go to gay clubs.

Oprah
You donít go to gay clubs?

J.L. King
If Iím going to pick up a brother, Iím going to wherever youíre going to go tonight.

Oprah
Where?

J.L. King
Wherever youíre goingÖyou know.

Oprah
I heard the grocery ñ you know itís been so long for me, I donít know ñ the grocery store is good.  You just said to me during the commercial break, and both of us are going to get letters about it, and Iímma send J.L. the letters you send to me.  But, you say you have a whollllle chapter on the Black church.

J.L. King
Yes, I do.

Oprah
And everybody kinda went, ìum, um, umî [like tsk, tsk, tsk].  And you were saying that if you wanted to look for the perfect guy, thatís where you would go.

J.L.King
I go looking for sex.  He doesnít have to be perfect.  He can be available and he can be part of the society thatís invisible to the church.  I am going to a church.  I can go anywhere in the country and find out what churches where most of the guys are or where I can make that connection.  And thatís where Iím gonna go.  Youíre not going to find me in no gay club because I have nothing to do with the gay culture.  Thatís them and thatís their thing.

Oprah
So you would go to a church?

J.L. King
I would go to a church.  Thatíd be one place to go, I could go to a church, the gym, the grocery store.  Anywhere, anywhere, because weíre everywhere.

Oprah
Okay, do you still date men and women?

J.L. King
Date?

Oprah
Oh, okay, what do we call it?  Do you still have sex with men?

J.L. King
Being ìinvolvedî with men and women, yes.

Oprah
So you wouldnít call it dating, so itís not a social thing.

J.L. King
Itís not an, ìIím in love, letís get married, letís move together and have the perfect dog.î

Oprah
Not even letís have any kind of relationship beyond sex.

J.L. King
If I was gay, yes.  If I was a gay man, I would want to be in a relationship with another man and play house.  So when youíre on the D.L., all you want to do is have sex.  Itís about gratification, not orientation.

Oprah
I got that.  So, now, what made you decide to come forward?

J.L. King
I thought about my daughter and all my play daughters in Houston.  And I knew that someone had to come forward and put a face to the behavior because those who work in the field were missing the face.  They were not really doing a good job, I thought, to reach me and to reach this fraternity of brothers.

Oprah
How big is this fraternity?

J.L. King
This invisible populationÖif you just look at the numbers, youíre looking at 68% or larger of cases.  I was even surprised sometimes when I meet a D.L. brother.  It blows me away when a brother comes up to me or I find out heís on the D.L.  Iím like, ìYou on the D.L., too?î

Oprah
Well, how does one know who is and who isnít?

J.L. King
We do it by the eyes.

Oprah
You do it by the eyes?

J.L. King
We do it by the eyes.  See, I wrote a chapter about the signs and itís all done by the eyes.

Oprah
And what do the eyes say?

J.L. King
They speak loud.  The eyes say a lot.  Without even having to say one word, I could make a connection in this room.

Oprah
At least wait until the show is over (audience laughs).  Okay, one of the men we heard from earlier who is living on the down low made a big step the day before we interviewed him.  He decided he needed to come clean with his girlfriend and here is what he told us:

Man # 2
It was really the first time I seriously thought about what I was doing and I realized I was hurting her, I was deceiving her; l was lying to her and I just couldnít do it anymore.  I took the biggest of my life and I told her what was going on.  I admitted to her that I was cheating on her and I was sleeping with women and men.  She was in total shock.  She was crying and screaming and she didnít know how I could do something like this to her.  This was the first time I really had to face what I was doing and this whole thing has been really emotional for me.

Oprah
Coming up, youíve met men who lead secret sexual lives.  Next, weíre going to hear from the other side, women who were deceived and infected with HIV speak out.

Commercial Break

Oprah
Ok, you were saying that even on the cover of ìOî magazine, there are stories aboutÖ

J.L. King
Right, all these stories about like, ìGet a man,î ìWhy Donít You Have a Man?î Take care of a Man,î ìLose Weight to Get a Manî.  If youíre thirtyÖ

Oprah
Thatís my magazine?  (Audience laughs) I thought that was Cosmo you were reading? OK.  (Audience laughs)

J.L. King
You know, you know, ìYou Can Love Againî.  The message that society puts on women is that you gotta have a man.  There is a major problem with this.

Oprah
Yeah, I do think that is true.  Well, no, the major problem is that the men are lying to the women? Isnít that the problem?  (Audience claps) Weíre talking to J.L. King, about his new book, which you can pre-order now on amazon.com because it is not out today, but it will be, and itís called ìOn the Down Lowî where he is very candid about what he has done and what a lot of men are doing.  On the down low is having sex with other men while they are also involved in relationships with their wives and their girlfriends.  This is Cheryl who is infected by a man who she had been dating off and on for ten years.  Even though she had some suspicions, uh, she said her boyfriend assured her he was not bisexual.  Now what was your suspicion?

Cheryl
Well, it just seemed that there were always gay men around.  Gay men would be visiting him in his apartment, we would go out together and there would be gay men to pass us and speak to him in the street and there just seemed to be an awful lot of gay men in his life.

Oprah
That ainít a red flag, thatís the Indy 500! (Audience laughs)

Cheryl
Well, but this was back in 1986, Oprah, and no one was talking about Down Low.  People was still fixated on this being a gay, White, male disease.  The only thing I was worried about was a Black, gay male friend of mine who liked to date Caucasian men and I kept telling him, ìBe careful; be cautious because you know you can catch this thing.î I never thought it would impact me.  Never.

Oprah
J.L., so, Iím thinking if gay men are surrounding your boyfriend all the time, then thatís a clue?

J.L. King
No, itís not.

Oprah
Itís not?

J.L. King
No.

Oprah
OK??

J.L. King
Just ëcause I got gay friends doesnít necessarily mean that Iím having sex with them. 

Oprah
Youíre right.  I just said it was a clueÖI didnít say you were having sex with them.

J.L. King
No, itís not a clue.  If a man is comfortable with his sexuality, he can have gay friends.  He should be able to have gay friends.  If heís comfortable with his sexuality and he has no desire to have sex with another man, he can have gay friends.  He can get in the bed with a gay man and not touch himÖseriouslyÖand not touch him, because heís comfortable with who he is.

Oprah
You sounding a little bit like Michael Jackson up here.  (Audience laughs) A little like Michael Jackson up here.  Iím not going there with you with all that you can get in the bed with a man and all that stuff, but letís just say, what should you be looking for to figure out if your husband or boyfriend is living on the down low?  You, who said that you have been surprised yourself by guys who were on the down low.  So how is a woman, who is number one in love, going through the motions, you know, the daily routine.  How would like your wife have known?

J.L. King
Women have an intuition; a sixth sense that something is not right in their home.  And they will follow their intuition.

Oprah
She literally followed you to theÖ

J.L. King
Yeah, she got nosey.  If women really want to find out, if they really want to know what their men are all about, get nosey, follow him. 

Oprah
Yeah, but see, you wouldnít suspect that it was another man. 

J.L. King
Yeah, sometimes weíll make you think itís another woman.  ìCause a woman will keep me around.  She may be upset with me.  She might withhold sex from me.  She may be mad at me, but sheís not gonna put me out the house.  She not gone pick up the phone and call my mother and call my friends and be like, ìHeís a faggot, heís gay and heís doing this thing to me.î But, if itís a woman, sheís cool with that for the most part.  So, I will make her think that itís another woman to keep her confused.

[Audience protests statement about how ìwomen will put up with that for the most partî]

Oprah
Well, you know what, everybody is saying, ìNo, sheís not cool with that.î But let me just say this, let me just say this.  Iíve been doing this show now since like 1855 and uh, when we first started doing this show women would stand up in the audience if we did a show on extramarital affairs and say, ìAw, I wouldnít tolerate it if my husbandÖî.  Well, that is not true today because most, or not most, but most women have either been through it or know someone who has.  Itís so close to home that nobody say, ìIf my husband did, I just wouldnít tolerate it anymore.î So, a lot of women, a lot fo women reconsider the option when they find out that their husband has been with another woman.  This is Marcea who never dreamed that she would be infected with the AIDS virus and the fact that her ex was also living on the down low.  She said she didnít fit the stereotype and used condoms 90% of the timeÖ

Marcea
99% of the time

Oprah
99?

Marcea
Yes.  I very seldom did not use a condom.  I was in college.  I was studying to be a Psychologist.  I had plans to have my PhD in Clinical Psychology and I was dating a gentleman and I found out after I left him and broke up with him that I was pregnant.  I had cancer and I was HIV positive.  I went back and told all my previousÖanybody Iíd even kissed that I had HIV and it later came back to me that he was also HIV positive and not JUST HIV positive, but had AIDS.

Oprah
Wow!  Now, howís the baby?

Marcea
Both of my children ñ I have two children now ñ my nine year old is HIV negative as well as my four-year old.

(Audience claps)

Oprah
Thank you Cheryl and Marcea.  Next, this student says he knows why thereís been a sudden outbreak of HIV infections on college campuses.  We will also talk to him.

Commercial Break

Oprah
We are talking a lot about the African-American community because more African-Americans are getting HIV more than anybody else in this country right now.

J.L. King
This is not just a Black thing.  There are a lot of White men who are ìbisexualî.  They donít use the term ìdown lowî, but they are bisexual and they are creeping in from the suburbs into our neighborhood because they have a desire to have sex with Black men.  Having sex with Black men and going back to their suburbs to their homes to their wives.  So, I donít want White women to think that this is just a Black thingÖthat only Black women are being impacted.  I think if this continues, weíre going to begin to see White women also being infected at the same rate as Black women.

Oprah
Listen to this: A sudden spike in HIV infection rates among African-American male college students is being declared a public health emergency.  Not an increase, but an emergency.  To understand whatís really going on, we took our cameras to Johnson C. Smith University.  Itís a historically Black school in North Carolina.  This is Johnathan Perry who is a senior there.

Johnathan (via video montage)
To be a Black man and come out openly gay and HIV positive is really big because of the stigma that exists in the Black community.  I was diagnosed with HIV in January 2001.  I think about being HIV positive every single day.  Itís like something whispering over my shoulder, ìYouíre gonna die, youíre gonna die, youíre gonna die.î I shut myself completely off from the world.

Oprah (via narrative commentary)
With recent headlines blaring that HIV is on the rise on college campuses, Johnathan has decided to speak out.

Johnathan
This is affecting our best and our brightest, so what are we doing about it?

Oprah
He, and other students on his campus, point to several key factors

Johnathan
Ignorance is definitely a large part of individuals transmitting this disease.  The fact that they think that there is a cure for HIV and AIDS.  I think people not wanting to use condoms has a lot to do with it.

Random Male Student
They say, ìI canít use a condom because it takes away the feelingíî

Random Female Student One
Iíve heard a lot of, ìIím allergic to the condom,î ìIt doesnít feel right,î or ìit takes away from that moment.î

Oprah
Another factor...the down low phenomena is on college campuses, too.

Random Female Student Two
I think brothers on the down low has become trendy on the college campus.

Random Female Student Three
I think about it all the time.  These are the same guys you go to church withÖthe guys who sleep with men and come back and have a straight relationship with you.

Johnathan
There have been straight men who have approached me.  They were still interested in having sex with me even after I told them Iím positive.  Weíre forgetting that HIV and AIDS is alive and itís well and thriving and kicking like a newborn baby in our society.  If you have blood flowing through your veinsÖyou are at risk.

[End of video clip]

Oprah (back in the studio)
And you often hear students say, I heard, Johnathan, that, ìIf I have it, I donít want to know.î

Johnsthan (in studio)
Yes, maíam.  Usually what I hear, for example, and I spoke and a young lady came to me and said, ìWell, if I have it, I donít want to know because I think it would kill me.  It would kill me to find that out.î And Iím like, ìHoney, itís gonna kill you to not find out.î

Oprah
And so is this ëdown lowí considered trendy ñ somebody said in the tape ñ that itís considered trendy on campus?

Johnathan
To a certain extent, I think it is trendy.  I mean, there are a lot of people I have met in passing that say, ìWell, I do it, you know, because the sex feels good,î or ìI just started messing around about three years ago or four years ago and I like, so Iím gonna continue doing it.î So, then Iím like, ìWell, what about your girlfriend?î Then theyíll say, ìWell, you know, she doesnít need to know.î

Oprah
Is it trendy or are we just now hearing about it because people are moreÖ

J.L. King
The numbers are up

Oprah
Because of the numbers?

J.L. King
Yeah, thatís the only reason.  If there was a cure for HIV tomorrow, the behavior still would continue.  Women would have to then start to ask themselves, ìAm I willing to go share y man with another man?î I always raise that question whenever I do my workshops and presentations.  I always ask, ìIf you want me to be honest, if you want me to come forward and talk with you about their sexual desire then you also need to understand that she still needs to be with you.  He still wants to be the father to your children.  He still wants to be your husband. You have to ask yourself, ìAm I willing to share my man?î

Oprah
And what do they say?

J.L. King
There are a lot of women who still want to be with me because theyíll say, ìIíd rather be with you because I know; I know who Iím dealing with and I know youíre not going to lie to be because youíre coming forward now and telling them, ìThis is who I am; itís your choice.î

Oprah
You know whatÖI wanna talk to Ebony, your daughter.  I want to talk to Ebony because this is something difficult for you to deal with, or is it difficult?  How old are you now?

Ebony
Iím twenty-nine.

Oprah
Youíre twenty-nine?  And how old were you when you found this out?

Ebony
About three years ago.

Oprah
About three years agoÖso you were thirty six.  And how hard is this to hear?

Ebony
(SIGH) Itís kind of clicking now like, ìOkay, this is real,î because before it wasnít so real because I really didnít see it much; I still didnít hear anything about itÖbut when it was coming from my father.  I support him in everything that he does, definitely, and I respect him for doing it and I say thank you all the time.

Oprah
How hard is it to talk about this in front of your daughter?

J.L. King
Weíre getting better the more we talk about it.  She read the book for the first time last night and for a long time I did not want her to read it.  Iíve been trying to hide it from her.  I really didnít want her to understand and hear it from me how I was living because Iím still her father.  One thing I said to her and I say to other young girls, ìI donítí want my daughter to marry a man like her father.î A lot of men want their daughters to marry a man like them.  I donít want her to.  I ëCause if she married a man like me, sheíd be putting herself at risk.

Oprah
What if she married a man like you who was open about it?  You just asked the questionÖ

J.L. King
If she married a man like me that was open, then it would be her choice.

Oprah
But you asked the question that you ask at your seminars - you ask women are you willing to share.  So, if she was willing to marry a man who was like yourself who was having sex with men, but told her.

J.L. King
I would be okay with that.

Oprah
You would okay with that?

J.L. King
It would be her choice.

Oprah
Okay, coming upÖthey canít get pregnant so they donít think they can get AIDS.  Another startling new face of AIDS.

Commercial Break

Oprah
AIDS is on the rise in another very surprising group.  AIDS cases in people over 50 have quintupled since 1995.  And senior women make up almost 20% of female AIDS cases.  How did that happen?  Uh, Jane Fowler says sheís the new face of AIDS and never believed this could happen to somebody like her.  Take a look.

Jane (via video montage)
I was the original 1950ís good girl.  I was a virgin on my wedding night

Oprah (via narrative commentary)
Jane Fowler says she lived a charmed life: a loving marriage, a family, a career as a journalist and a fabulous social life.  But after 23 years of what she thought was the perfect marriage, Janeís life took an unexpected turn.

Jane
In 1982, uh, my now ex-husband confessed that he wanted out of the marriage and then we were divorced in 1983.  I was 38 years old dating for the first time in a quarter of a century.  During this period, I was spending time with a man whoíd been a friend my entire adult life and occasionally, we would have unprotected sex.

Oprah
Back then, in 1985, Jane said she did not know that condoms prevented sexually transmitted diseases.

Jane
To me, condoms were strictly for birth control.  I did not need that. It just never occurred to me to request, or demand, that protection be used during sexual intercourse.

Oprah
Five years later when she was applying for new health insurance, Jane was rejected, but didnít know why.

Jane
The letter said I was being denied coverage because of a significant blood abnormality

Oprah
Jane had hoped it was a horrible mistake and after a visit with her physician, she was retested.  Two weeks later came devastating news.

Jane
Yes, I have HIV.  I wept and I wondered what was going to become of me.

Oprah
Desperate to find out when she was infected, Jane poured over years of her social calendars and discovered the very night that a tryst with her dear friend changed her life forever.  Jane didnít know it at the time, but at the time he was infected with HIV.

Jane
I pulled out the 1985 book and there was the New Yearís Eve that I had spent with my friend.  There was some champagne and there was unprotected sex.  That meant I had been infected five years already.

Oprah
Jane isolated herself for four years and when she got news that the man who infected her had died, she fell apart.

Jane
The death of the man who infected me was a wake up call.  And I felt I could make a difference if I stand up and say, ìLook at this face ñ this old, wrinkled, jowley face.  This is another face of HIV.î

Oprah
And weíll talk to Jane when we come back.

Commercial Break

Oprah
Why are older women especially susceptible to HIV and AIDS, Jane?

Jane
Lack of awareness, lack of education.  They donít think it could happen to them.  HIV is a disease of ìtehmî not ìusî...with ìthemî being young people and not the old people.

Oprah
And so you were how old when this happened to you?

Jane
I was 50 years old when I was infected.  I was 55 when I found out; and I am 68 today.

[Audience applause]

Oprah
Well, let me introduce Phil Wilson to you.  Phil is on the front line of this new AIDS crisis.  Phil is the director of the Black AIDS Institute and he knows what heís talking about because Phil has had full-blown AIDS for the last 14 years.  Okay, so this down low trendÖ

Phil
Right

Oprah
Is it a trend or is has it been happening?  What is going on?

Phil
Well, Oprah, the deal with this down low is a new wave of behavior thatís been going on for a long time.  And itís not unique to Black men, by the way.  I mean, basically, it is men who will have sex with men and women who donít disclose.  Itís been going on forever.  The issue now is that we live in a more dangerous time.

Oprah
And why is itÖI mean, the statistics just knock me out, that African-American women account for 72% of all the new AIDS cases.  Do yíall know how high 72% is?  What does that mean.

Phil
There is a slight verification, itís 72% of women with AIDS, now, which is still alarming and we should be outraged by that. There are a number of reasons.  First and foremost, Black women donít think that they can be at risk.  Now, secondly, itís their unwillingness to talk about it.

Oprah
Who are we going to talk about it to?

Phil
First of all, if youíre unable to talk to your sexual partner about his sexual history, then maybe this is not the person you should be having sex with.  So thatís number one.  Number two, you know, the whole issue, you know, of young girls saying they have to be in a relationship and being willing to do anything to be in those relationships and stay in them.  J.L. said something that was very, very important and even Cheryl said something about trying to figure out if he is on the down lowÖif heís sleeping with other men.  When frankly, he puts you at risk if heís sleeping with other women, he puts you at risk if heís an injected drug user.  No, what we need to be talking about is how to have the kinds of conversations to protect ourselves.  It takes two people to transmit the virus.  It only takes one person to stop it.

Oprah
Okay.  Weíll be right back.

Commercial Break

Oprah
Okay, I was looking at how HIV and AIDS is sweeping through rural communities in the South.  Black people make up only 12% of the population and 50% of newly reported AIDS cases.  The states in red are where African-Americans make up more than 64% of new AIDS cases.  SO whatís going on down south?

[The map was of the United States.  Texas was not highlighted in red, but Atlanta and all of that surrounding area was.]

Phil
Well, part of the problem is because it is so frightening that even when there are indications that you should be concerned, people donít want to deal with the reality that it is indeed affecting them.  It has been said that, ìYour silence will not protect you.î And that is so true because silence around this disease is killing us.

Oprah
Weíll be right back, weíll be right back.

Commercial Break

Oprah
Well, weíve opened the door to talk about it.  You talk about how we need to talk about it; I think we talked about it today. 

Phil
Oprah, I have four things for solutions, which I think is important.

Oprah
Okay, letís hear those.

Phil
One is that everybody needs to get informed about HIV and AIDS.  Now, what you know can save your lives.  Number two, people need to get tested.  Knowing your HIV status can save your life.  Number three, people who are positive need to get into treatment.  AIDS is not the automatic death sentence it once was.  Treatment can save your life, but you have to know your status. And number four, folks have got to be involved.  At the end of the day, only when we are involved, will we stop this epidemic.

Oprah
Well, thank you so much, J.L., for having the courage to speak out and all of my guests today, thank you.  For more information on HIV and AIDS, you can go Oprah.com and ìOn the Down Lowî is J.L. Kingís upcoming book.  Thank youÖthank you.

[Audience Applause]

END OF SHOW

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Thursday, April 22, 2004

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Wednesday, April 21, 2004

A Good Read

Behold a Pale Horse

If anyone re-elects Bush into the White House you are ALL fools.  I read a book a while back titled above “Behold a Pale Horse”. 

In this book the author discusses events before they would take place.  He was killed for his beliefs.  The author was a former U.S. Naval Intelligence Briefing Team member.  He reveals information kept secret by our government since the 1940s (i.e, assassinations, the Secret Government, the war on drugs, etc).

This book was published in 1991. When did the first Bush declare war on Iraq? anyone?

The book discusses the following:

SECRET SOCIETIES AND THE NEW WORLD ORDER
A good introduction to secret societies like the Freemasons, Jason Group, Trilateral Commission, CFR, and the Illuminati.  Its been said Bush is a member of skull and bones detailed on a documentary that aired on PBS over 2 years ago.  Bill Clinton was also discussed as a member.

H.R. 7049 & FEMA - After reading this chapter you won’t doubt the real purpose of FEMA.

ANTI-DRUG ABUSE ACT OF 1988
An excellent example of how congress passes legislation which on the surface seems to be reasonable, but under the surface it’s really an attempt to suspend due proses, trail by jury, and bring about a police state!

ANATOMY OF AN ALLIANCE
A discussion about population control and various attempts to decrease the world’s population. On page 168 he reveals the origins of AIDS (H.B. 15090) and how it was spread by vaccine. How international wars are created for population control.

Some of the information may be a bit far fetched but it was recommended by a friend who was once in the military and has seen many president’s come and go.

You can also read reviews on Amazon.com.

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MCI EMERGES FROM BANKRUPTCY TODAY

ñ [The Wall Street Journal, B5.] MCI, the nationís No. 2 long-distance phone company, is set to emerge from Chapter 11 federal bankruptcy-court protection today, issuing new stock and bonds to pay off creditors.  The company also will make a record $750 million payment that eventually will go to investors who were crushed by the companyís $11 billion accounting fraud and subsequent record-setting bankruptcy filing.  MCI, which changed its name from WorldCom and moved its headquarters to Ashburn, Va., from Mississippi during the bankruptcy, will fully rejoin a beleaguered telecom industry in which overcapacity has been driving prices down at a merciless rate.  The company will pay the Securities and Exchange Commission $500 million in cash and $250 million in newly issued stock as part of its settlement today, though the proceeds likely won’t be distributed to investors for more than a year as the court overseeing the settlement sets up a procedure for filing claims.  Some analysts fear MCI will become the ultimate ìzombieî company—one that has been artificially revived by bankruptcy and is helping to keep an already-overcrowded industry flooded with supply.  MCI says it has done everything in its power to clean house after the fraud, which resulted in criminal charges against former CEO Bernard Ebbers, former Chief Financial Officer Scott Sullivan and four other former executives.  The debacle wiped out a stock that had been valued at about $180 billion at its peak in 1999 and spawned numerous shareholder lawsuits.  Those lawsuits were wiped out by the bankruptcy filing, though suits against individuals involved with the company are continuing. 

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